Dear Mr & Mrs Cameron,
Why did you never take the time to teach your child basic morality?
As a young man, he was in a gang that regularly smashed up private property. We know that you were absent parents who left your child to be brought up by a school rather than taking responsibility for his behaviour yourselves. The fact that he became a delinquent with no sense of respect for the property of others can only reflect that fact that you are terrible, lazy human beings who failed even in teaching your children the difference between right and wrong. I can only assume that his contempt for the small business owners of Oxford is indicative of his wider values.
Even worse, your neglect led him to fall in with a bad crowd. He became best friends with a young man who set fire to buildings for fun. And others:
There’s Michael Gove, whose wet-lipped rage was palpable on Newsnight last night. This is the Michael Gove who confused one of his houses with another of his houses in order to avail himself of £7,000 of the taxpayers’ money to which he was not entitled (or £13,000, depending on which house you think was which).
Or Hazel Blears, who was interviewed in full bristling peahen mode for almost all of last night. She once forgot which house she lived in, and benefited to the tune of £18,000. At the time she said it would take her reputation years to recover. Unfortunately not.
But, of course, this is different. This is just understandable confusion over the rules of how many houses you are meant to have as an MP. This doesn’t show the naked greed of people stealing plasma tellies.
Unless you’re Gerald Kaufman, who broke parliamentary rules to get £8,000 worth of 40-inch, flat screen, Bang and Olufsen TV out of the taxpayer.
Or Ed Vaizey, who got £2,000 in antique furniture ‘delivered to the wrong address’. Which is fortunate, because had that been the address they were intended for, that would have been fraud.
Or Jeremy Hunt, who broke the rules to the tune of almost £20,000 on one property and £2,000 on another. But it’s all right, because he agreed to pay half of the money back. Not the full amount, it would be absurd to expect him to pay back the entire sum that he took and to which he was not entitled. No, we’ll settle for half. And, as in any other field, what might have been considered embezzlement of £22,000 is overlooked. We know, after all, that David Cameron likes to give people second chances.
Fortunately, we have the Met Police to look after us. We’ll ignore the fact that two of its senior officers have had to resign in the last six weeks amid suspicions of widespread corruption within the force.
We’ll ignore Andy Hayman, who went for champagne dinners with those he was meant to be investigating, and then joined the company on leaving the Met.
Of course, Mr and Mrs Cameron, your son is right. There are parts of society that are not just broken, they are sick. Riddled with disease from top to bottom.
Just let me be clear about this (It’s a good phrase, Mr and Mrs Cameron, and one I looted from every sentence your son utters, just as he looted it from Tony Blair), I am not justifying or minimising in any way what has been done by the looters over the last few nights. What I am doing, however, is expressing shock and dismay that your son and his friends feel themselves in any way to be guardians of morality in this country.
Can they really, as 650 people who have shown themselves to be venal pygmies, moral dwarves at every opportunity over the last 20 years, bleat at others about ‘criminality’. Those who decided that when they broke the rules (the rules they themselves set) they, on the whole wouldn’t face the consequences of their actions?
Are they really surprised that this country’s culture is swamped in greed, in the acquisition of material things, in a lust for consumer goods of the most base kind? Really?
Let’s have a think back: cash-for-questions; Bernie Ecclestone; cash-for-access; Mandelson’s mortgage; the Hinduja passports; Blunkett’s alleged insider trading (and, by the way, when someone has had to resign in disgrace twice can we stop having them on television as a commentator, please?); the meetings on the yachts of oligarchs; the drafting of the Digital Economy Act with Lucian Grange; Byers’, Hewitt’s & Hoon’s desperation to prostitute themselves and their positions; the fact that Andrew Lansley (in charge of NHS reforms) has a wife who gives lobbying advice to the very companies hoping to benefit from the NHS reforms. And that list didn’t even take me very long to think of.
Our politicians are for sale and they do not care who knows it.
Oh yes, and then there’s the expenses thing. Widescale abuse of the very systems they designed, almost all of them grasping what they could while they remained MPs, to build their nest egg for the future at the public’s expense. They even now whine on Twitter about having their expenses claims for getting back to Parliament while much of the country is on fire subject to any examination. True public servants.
The last few days have revealed some truths, and some heartening truths. The fact that the #riotcleanup crews had organised themselves before David Cameron even made time for a public statement is heartening. The fact that local communities came together to keep their neighbourhoods safe when the police failed is heartening. The fact that there were peace vigils being organised (even as the police tried to dissuade people) is heartening.
There is hope for this country. But we must stop looking upwards for it. The politicians are the ones leading the charge into the gutter.
David Cameron was entirely right when he said: “It is a complete lack of responsibility in parts of our society, people allowed to think that the world owes them something, that their rights outweigh their responsibilities, and that their actions do not have consequences.”
He was more right than he knew.
And I blame the parents.
*** EDIT – I have added a hyperlink to a Bullingdon article after a request for context from an American reader. I have also added the sentence about Nick Clegg as this was brought to my attention in the comments and it fits in too nicely to leave out. That’s the way I edited it at 18:38 on the 11th August, 2011 ***
***EDIT 2 – I’ve split the comments into pages as, although there were some great discussions going on in them, there were more than 500 and the page was taking *forever* to load for some people, and not loading at all for others. I would encourage everyone to have a poke around in the comments, as many questions and points have been covered, and there are some great comments. Apologies if it looks like your comment has disappeared. ***
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August 12, 2011 at 9:55 am
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August 12, 2011 at 10:28 am
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August 12, 2011 at 10:42 am
richard
If only words would make our politico swamp trash change their hypocritical ways.
August 12, 2011 at 10:49 am
Steve London
Does it really matter that Cameron and members of his cabinet have got themselves into trouble in the past… is that supposed to excuse the behaviour of the thugs and looters of today ??
Decent tax paying people deserve to have their voices heard and their disgust made clear, what does it matter that it comes from the reformed or otherwise. I am sick of hearing people try to justify or divert the attention away from the fact that those who took part in the looting and criminal acts of the last few days have NO excuse and no matter what the circumstances nothing excuses or justifys it.
August 12, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Luke
Duh….. that is so far away from the point this piece is trying to make.
The actual point is that that selfishness, amorality, moral degradation and unchecked greed are as much a feature of the people at the very top of our society as they are of people at the bottom.
The point is that politicians – many of whom have been proven to be corrupt, hypocritical, venal, self-serving and lying – might be better advised to take a long, hard look at themselves before they start pontificating and rabble-rousing about the crimes and misdemeanours of others.
Decent tax paying people _do_ deserve to have their voices heard – and I would say we will not find many of these voices within illegal-war-waging, banker-bailing, expenses-scamming, serial-lying, inequality-promoting Westminster.
And please, enough already of this mindset that loud condemnation and moronic hate-speak is the only acceptable response to these awful riots. When did analysis, enquiry, investigation into possible causes and suggestions about how best to avoid them in future become the same thing as appeasing or excusing loutish, criminal, destructive and anti-social behaviour? It’s completely moronic. If you want to bang on and on and on about how “shocked” “appalled” “sickened” and “disgusted” you are – go ahead. It’s empty noise and totally banal. For God’s sake – EVERYBODY is shocked by what’s happened. Personally, I would rather start hearing some intelligent voices starting to ask a very straightforward question – how has this come to pass?
August 12, 2011 at 11:02 am
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[…] An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents « Nathaniel Tapley"Dear Mr & Mrs Cameron, Why did you never take the time to teach your child basic morality? As a young man, he was in a gang that regularly smashed up private property. We know that you were absent parents who left your child to be brought up by a school rather than taking responsibility for his behaviour yourselves…" (riots david_cameron letter humour ) […]
August 12, 2011 at 11:13 am
HooDatIS?
cameron is in alot of trouble and a very tough situation
http://ethicalfutures.wordpress.com
August 12, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Wez Hind
I think its important to mention the main educator of modern day’s youth. This teacher seems to show that to achieve most things in life, all you need to do is apply a little violence (or a lot depending on which tv show you watch or which government/regime you follow). It seems to be made very clear that the way to solve a problem is by violence…and people wonder why protest takes the forms it does sometimes!! Stop or I’ll shoot!!! or sometimes just BANG! Oh sorry, you just happened to be a different colour and carrying a backpack…well it was understandable why I made a mistake!!
Also for those saying ‘decent tax paying people deserve to have their voices heard…’, are you suggesting that you don’t have a platform to raise your concerns…and if this is so, does this not suggest that the governance you seem to hold blameless for society’s ills…erm really doesn’t care what you think as long as you keep paying for their expensive dinners, expensive holidays…oh sorry I meant, as long as you keep paying your taxes! (Else how they gonna be able to afford to pay their backers/bankers back – they’ll have to figure out how to steal more from you and keep convincing you that they’re doing you the favours)
The only person to enter parliament with honest intentions was Guy Fawkes (not my line, read it somewhere) and I admit that these thugs obviously were mindless, else they’d have followed the same route and attempted to remove the corrupt heart at the centre of British society instead of Flat screen tvs and other tokens of ‘success’ in today’s western culture.
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August 12, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Blanket Beak
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August 12, 2011 at 12:57 pm
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August 12, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Jane Callaghan
Luckily, come the first week of September, most of the idiot rioters will be back in school. Unluckily, this is not true of HMG.
August 12, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Wez Hind
I think some of the people talking about economies being drained by unemployed yobs and the like, should maybe go read up on some of the figures about how much is spent on military acquisitions etc… or maybe ask for some of the money back for Trident missiles… if we were as concerned for the youth of our culture as we seem to be for having nice shiny toys that kill people, we might have a society we could ALL take some pride in.
ps. I know most weapons aren’t shiny (or nice)
Compare how much money we put into solving societies many problems and how much we put into owning the means of destroying societies…I mean actually GO AND READ THE FIGURES and then come back here and see if in good conscience you can write the same comments…
pps this is not aimed at any particular commentator
ppps. I still think Alex J Napier Holland’s comment was creepy – erm that one was definitely ‘aimed’ sorry!
August 12, 2011 at 1:15 pm
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August 12, 2011 at 1:44 pm
david1lee
A fine piece. I am a little confused(as, I think, must be many of the readers of said piece) as to why they are reading it as some kind of political polemic. Morality is what has been put on the table, not whether all this is the fault of Labour or Tory, but whether a man like Cameron with his history, and the fact that he represents all politicians has any room to talk to the British public on the subject of what is right and wrong . The man should stick to his job and leave philosophy to the philosophers.
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August 12, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Ed
Nothing excuses the blaming of others for the actions of an individual, including this article, even if it is satire. That David Cameron is wrong to blame the parents of the kids en mass does not entitle anybody to use his parents as a stick to make a point. Of course some parents of looters/rioters will be partly to blame for the recent troubles, but not all of them. Of course some MPs are rotten through to the core, but not all. Why not blame the constituents of the rotten MPs? They must be guilty as well. Either they voted for, they didn’t vote, or they did not campaign hard enough against during the election. That’s the same sort of logic. The article is a big thumbs down for me.
August 12, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Mattheq Coffin
Thanks NT, you have put into words all of my frustrations while watching the telly. That the Pm wants to use an iron fist to restore law and order, well fine, no one has the right to mindlessley destroy the lives of others. BUT, please do not use the ‘lack of morality’ speech. People will always follow the example given, and the current ruling elite seem to have forgotten that they have shown the people of the UK that cheating/stealing/lying/destruction are all ok.
August 12, 2011 at 2:16 pm
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August 12, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Ann Mawer
Brilliant piece of writing . The government are as thuggish as any youngster on the street today they have stolen millions from us and are still doing so with expenses subsidies meal cheap booze claiming travel when everyone else as to pay their own bus and train fares pay for their own meals as to pay for their own mortgages and pay their own council tax . As I remember this government said it was going to stamp out and root out all free loaders in parliament and here they are all still doing it but hoping that they will not get caught this time round . David Cameron has sold us down the river given our jobs to Germany and every other country for one example Bombardier in Derby he cannot blame everything onto the previous government here is a man who was voted for because we were fools and and thought after all those years of the Tories being in the wilderness he was going to make things better for the poor and the sick and when I say sick I don’t mean Druggies and Alcoholics I mean the sick instead he targeted the easy ones in our society and made the poor and needy poorer but the rich richer what a fool I have been in voting for this man but I knew the country need change and after Blair /Brown and cronies all feathering their own nests I thought here was a man of integrity but he’s turned out worse than those before him and now he will not admit that he as contributed to the circumstances of what as happened over the past few days I admit no one should go around stealing and committing arson but when governments no longer listen to Joe Public then drastic action as to be taken to make them sit up and listen after all this is what is going on in Libya Syria Egypt in fact half the world now wants to bring down their governments for betraying them taking from them and not giving in return but making themselves millionaires when they all ready are . There is an old saying the more the rich get the more they want and that is very true just look at Tony Blair . So Mr Cameron and Government don’t say that all trouble is down to bad parenting it’s not some yes majority no that is laid squarely at the door of Number 10 Downing Street .
August 12, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Helen Austin (@helenaustin)
Excellent writing!
I am from the UK and now live in Canada so I watch all this from afar, and also watch what goes on south of the border. It is all very sad… but sadly nothing new.
August 12, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Meerkuts
Thank you, you just made my day no fuck it my week. Beautifully executed with actual facts unlike most of our ‘representatives’ this week!
Nice one, MK x
August 12, 2011 at 3:33 pm
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August 12, 2011 at 3:41 pm
alan campbell
As a scot living in England, London to be exact, I would like to say this: Why has this NOT happened in Scotland? My opinion is that love or hate the Scottish parliament, They do think about its people to a certain degree. I say this is conjunction with free prescriptions to those who are ill, afterall paying £7.40 atime for prescribed treatment is diabolical. Its NOT A CRIME TRO BE ILL but in england YOU WILL PAY if you are. Also Higher Education fees in Scotland are free unlike England where the fees are going up year-in, Year -out, even after relatively quiet protests by students( and even I sympathise with students in england and I am not a fond lover of students). This has been a long time coming, why is everyone so surprised?
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August 12, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Amita Mukerjee
I’m putting this link on my blog if it’s ok. I know that sounds horribly like spam but it isn’t. My blog says something similar, basic point being: these folks have absolutely no moral legitimacy to talk about greed and criminality. Thanks for this piece, awesome stuff!
August 12, 2011 at 5:41 pm
lulu
Thank f**k somone is talking sense.
August 12, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Christian Mason
The author of this hasn’t even had the courage to write their name. This is a vicious piece of work, biased as fuck and written by a coward. SOME politicians committed crimes, ALL the looters committed crimes. Yes the people we elect might not be the right people but unless others stand who else is there. But my real issue with piece of garbage is that it attacks David Cameron’s mother and his recently dead father – by what measure does the author feel it has the right? I hope the authors relations are all saints because if not it makes them s hypocrit as well as a pathetic, vicious, frightened moronic fraction of a person.
August 12, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Nathaniel Tapley
I feel a little guilty about this because I don’t like to mock the blind or partially sighted. I suggest you get your carer to read you the big words at the top of the page. They are my name. Or the URL. Which consists of my name with a .com on the end. Or the name at the top of this comment, and atop every one of the many, many comments I’ve answered in this thread.
All of them have my name on.
My relations aren’t saints, but they are all much nicer people than you appear to be.
(Although I like ‘fraction of a person’. Whoever helped you type it did well there….)
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Look. Today, the Daily Telegraph agrees with you:
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The ‘banned’ picture of the Bullingdon Club boys:
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August 12, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Gill
Yes after shoving money at their precious son the parents legged it to France to live ….. wonder if they claimed their English pension and winter fuel allowance and their nhs medical treatment and rent on their English properties …. and whether they dodged tax on all.
August 12, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Tony T
TM – Regarding the comment that these are not children of a labour era, we will have to agree to disagree, i believe a child born about 20 years ago under a tory government, will hardly be aware of party politics, below the age of about 8, they will have been toddlers under the tories, and will have been brought up and influenced under increasingly weak social rules, and increasingly handicapped police, legal, home and school systems, unwilling, unable, or afraid to punish anyone adequatley (including multiparty politicians, i agree), it is unbelievable, what people generally get away with these days, some with none custodial sentences for punching law officers, not much of a deterant too a mindless thug really. These are not all poor children, they are brought up by all sorts of people in many social backgrounds. Whilst agreeing with the social economic point regarding poverty and the gap between rich and poor and the tories widening the gap, true, but there are many poorer children around the world right now, they are not rioting (sorry, wrong word, this wasnt riots, it was just criminal lawlessness and looting, including a bit of follow my leader/ do some damage/and nicking some gear). It just seems to me, there are always people making excuses/diversions for these people by talking about these issues so soon after the event and saying we should bankrupt the country even more chucking money we dont have, at schemes that dont 100% apply to these people (agreed we really need to do something about being held to ransom by bankers and market dealers, but we are financially where we are, and labour put us there, before handing the poison chalice to their replacements). Really and honestly, do you actually think all of these people are cub scouts / social club users. Most of what i saw and many victims saw, were laughing youths in gangs taking things and damaging things, mob mentality and opportunism. I believe likening this to any sort of genuine political grievance, like those of the past, under both parties, belittles genuine struggles for fairness. social unfairness is a small factor, but it creates a diversion and an excuse, that some of these kids listen too, and copy, seen it with 3 young youths of about 13 on the News saying ,they blame the cuts, they could hardly keep the smug grins of there faces while they were saying it (covered in bling and designer gear). main point, annoyance at Left wing people blaming tories for all of britains problems, a bit rich seeing how long they were in power.
August 12, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Gnstr
genius!
August 12, 2011 at 8:47 pm
scone
An interesting satire but you can’t just blame this on politics. There are so many reasons why people feel this devalued and I think it’s too simplistic to imply that this feeling comes from very recent cuts/ anger at the expenses scandal or that the riots/looting are an equal correlation of this. It seems to be that the far right AND the far left are using the riots as propaganda for their own, already set in stone belief systems. Aside from arm waving on twitter and facebook what are people really doing to help this problem? We are not powerless and at the complete mercy of our government. Generating discussion can only be a good thing but until we all step outside our front doors and do something to contribute to society and the communities around us then it’s all no more than hot air.
August 12, 2011 at 11:45 pm
Nathaniel Tapley
No one is blaming anything on politics. If you accept, as the politicians urge us to, that we live in a culture that does not make people take responsibility for their actions, that often lets petty criminality slide, and that encourages a sense of entitlement then you surely must accept that MPs are guilty of encouraging that culture, of taking advantage of that culture, and of publicly reinforcing that culture.
I am not saying any looter had expenses in mind, I am saying that the profligate and disgusting behaviour of MPs went visibly unpunished (as they refused to punish themselves, except for a few exceeedingly egregious cases – and, no, paying back half of what you stole is not a punishment) and contributes to a general sense that venality is all right, even to be encouraged within society.
August 12, 2011 at 9:49 pm
roland
Nice choice of picture as well. He looks like a conniving twat.
August 12, 2011 at 10:11 pm
penultimatemarmot
Seems to be a lot of blaming others going on this page, starting at the top. Ironic, considering that blaming others and failing to take personal responsibility is a major component of the social dysfunction that caused the riots.
August 12, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Nathaniel Tapley
And is a major component of the behaviour of MPs. “I only claimed £18,000 in council tax relief I wasn’t allowed to because everyone else was. the system I helped design encourages it…”
August 12, 2011 at 10:30 pm
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August 12, 2011 at 10:38 pm
hayley_321
not bein’ funny but y dont force lootrz to help rebuild and open shop’s sellin that stuff they nikked? mayby they cud mploy penshuners?
August 12, 2011 at 11:23 pm
MunXy-Sheffield
to all the liberals and PC brigade.
the man in question had a gun in direct contravention to british LAW, if he pointed it at anyone, not just police, then he is causing an endangerment to another human being, if he discharges or not is irrelevant, the man was threatening public safety and the police did right to shoot him first.
if this man was pointing a gun at you or your family members would you feel happy and confident that he was NOT going to shoot?
if he has a gun, logically he should be expected to fire it therefore technically even just possesing a gun makes that person a potential murderer because logically for him to possess a gun, which in itself is against the law he was already a known criminal which would suggest he had the firearm for nefarious possibly deadly intent ergo police are allowed by the same law to use deadly force if they or a member of the public, in thier opinion are in danger.
August 13, 2011 at 12:41 am
Wez Hind
What man in question? Oh my goodness, are you suggesting that David Cameron has a gun…quick send the police round and shoot him please…I believe he represents a serious threat to ‘public safety’.
August 12, 2011 at 11:33 pm
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August 12, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Pocketanne
Having watched the Cameron Government from Sydney Australia in anticipation of leadership from a team of small ‘l’ liberal conservatives sharing the balance of power in government, I can only express extreme disappointment and disgust in the British public service. From its handling of the Murdoch investigation to the corruption that has become so deeply entrenched in the cultural make-up of one of the oldest, surviving institutions of democracy makes this Australian public servant sick to the bottom of my heart.
The promise of the “Big Society” policy reforms and the community consultation and engagement strategies for citizen-centric service design and delivery were seemingly empty, meaningless words.
Since the end of the World War 11 (or was it earlier?), we have again been designing our human systems around individualism, ‘democratic capitalism’, and the constant societal celebration of the so-called values of individual wealth, possessions and disposable goods to keep our global financial markets afloat has created one of humanity’s worst deadly sins – mass greed!
Throughout history, our greatest societies, governments, institutions and leaders have fallen in a similar way. Nero is still fiddling as Rome burns and still we do not learn!
But wait!
It’s no longer Rupert’s fault, it must be the fault of the media we can’t control, Social Media! Let’s shut it down in 140 characters. As I think quietly about this back in Sydney my conspiracy theory develops…
What a Twitterrific way to take Rupert and Wendy out of the front page tabloid headlines…. a community engagement strategy using the evil social media tools that appeals to the mass greed we have been breeding and encouraging our poorest and most marginalised communities to set fire to Rome whilst all of the Neros, the deputy Neros and the Commissioner Neros are fiddling way in their summer houses in the South of France watching Under the Tuscan Sun in 3-D on the their very own brand new giant plasma televisions.
I think Rome will continue to burn for some time yet. After all, the summer holidays aren’t over yet and the Murdoch enquiry is still not over.
August 13, 2011 at 2:21 am
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